Star Trek Online Forum » General Discussion » STO $28 Shipped on Amazon -- Fire sale so soon?

     The sad part is I'd rather play STO then play "Spreadsheet online/ SpaceScreensaver Online" = EVE  HAHA

     STO only has a month of play in it, but EVE online takes a month just to get to a point where you can play 8 )

     * ducks and covers from all the tomatoes being thrown by EVE fanbois!!

     gate/wait wait wait/gate /wait wait/ gate/ wait wait wait gate/ wait wait wait  /gate wait wait wait wait wait planet gate/ wait station

If you keep an eye on Amazon after any release of a product that they over buy they will do these deals on. I have gotten some amazing deals from Amazon in the past due to their overstocking of products. Hell I got  season 4 or 5 (can't remember it has been a good while) of Sg1 for 8 dollars one time, but doesn't mean I could go out and do it again. Check back tomorrow when the gold box deal is over and see what it is selling at.

Originally posted by choujiofkono

     The sad part is I'd rather play STO then play "Spreadsheet online/ SpaceScreensaver Online" = EVE  HAHA

     STO only has a month of play in it, but EVE online takes a month just to get to a point where you can play 8 )

     * ducks and covers from all the tomatoes being thrown by EVE fanbois!!

     gate/wait wait wait/gate /wait wait/ gate/ wait wait wait gate/ wait wait wait  /gate wait wait wait wait wait planet gate/ wait station

Looks like you've never actually played EVE before.

Also why did you suddenly bring EVE up? Knocking the popular space MMO isn't going to make the crappy space MMO look any better at all.

Originally posted by Xondar123

Originally posted by choujiofkono

     The sad part is I'd rather play STO then play "Spreadsheet online/ SpaceScreensaver Online" = EVE  HAHA

     STO only has a month of play in it, but EVE online takes a month just to get to a point where you can play 8 )

     * ducks and covers from all the tomatoes being thrown by EVE fanbois!!

     gate/wait wait wait/gate /wait wait/ gate/ wait wait wait gate/ wait wait wait  /gate wait wait wait wait wait planet gate/ wait station

 

Looks like you've never actually played EVE before.

Also why did you suddenly bring EVE up? Knocking the popular space MMO isn't going to make the crappy space MMO look any better at all.

I agree. people try to deflect the conversation all the time. it is either EVE or WOW anything to turn the conversation from the abortion that STO has become.

Today only:

Looks like you've never actually played EVE before.

There's an old joke among Star Fleet Battles players, describing what that game portrays:

Shipboard life is six months of boredom, followed by six minutes of sheer, stark, screaming terror. SFB is supposed to represent the "six minutes of terror".

I think CCP modeled EVE after the "six months of boredom".

And before you direct your barrage at me, I've been subbed for about a year and a half.  I like it as a sim, but if you want to play a game you're looking for something else most of the time.

STO is fine - not great, but fine.  You guys need a better hobby than sitting in these forums bitching about a bunch of games you never actually play.

Originally posted by Phry

probably they just overestimated demand and their trying to get rid of their stock....  or something....good luck with that eh

They get a 20 million bonus from Atari if they hit some undisclosed revenue targets.

http://www.massively.com/2008/12/09/atari-acquires-cryptic-studios/

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Originally posted by Die_Scream
Mark my words, it will not be long before you see CO bundled with STO for $30 or so.

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Atari-Cryptic "Station" subscription? $15 a month and get to play both? ;)

And back up to $40, nice ONE day sale.

www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Online-Pc/dp/B002673XJA/ref=br_lf_m_1000486651_1_1_img

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Originally posted by AmazingAvery
And back up to $40, nice ONE day sale.
www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Online-Pc/dp/B002673XJA/ref=br_lf_m_1000486651_1_1_img

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True enough... but the fact that the 44% slash happened at all is very telling. Just in the simplist supply & demnad outook, somehting that is new and seelling well doesn't need a 50% drop. Even for one day.

Maybe I missed it, but the fact they haven't bragged about their sales and/or sub numbers tells me all I need to know about how they are doing.  I know they said they topped the UK sales chart for a week, but no numbers are given, and week ending March 6th they dropped to 18th on that same chart.  I'm wondering if they even sold 500k boxes world wide.

What they don't sell they can always throw away.

Ahhh ATARI, filling landfills with their games since 1982....
That should be their slogan. :P

Originally posted by Fraxture

What they don't sell they can always throw away.

Ahhh ATARI, filling landfills with their games since 1982....
That should be their slogan. :P

 

Well ET is probably pretty lonely after all this time.

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Maybe I missed it, but the fact they haven't bragged about their sales and/or sub numbers tells me all I need to know about how they are doing.  I know they said they topped the UK sales chart for a week, but no numbers are given, and week ending March 6th they dropped to 18th on that same chart.  I'm wondering if they even sold 500k boxes world wide.

At one point they claimed they had a million forum accounts. The way they announced it though left things open to interpretation and many people assumed that meant they had a million sto subscriptions.  They should have some pretty reliable download numbers though so I don't know why they're not advertising that.

Originally posted by bstiff

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Maybe I missed it, but the fact they haven't bragged about their sales and/or sub numbers tells me all I need to know about how they are doing.  I know they said they topped the UK sales chart for a week, but no numbers are given, and week ending March 6th they dropped to 18th on that same chart.  I'm wondering if they even sold 500k boxes world wide.

 

At one point they claimed they had a million forum accounts. The way they announced it though left things open to interpretation and many people assumed that meant they had a million sto subscriptions.  They should have some pretty reliable download numbers though so I don't know why they're not advertising that.

That was a feeble attempt to make people think they sold one million units.  If they sold one million units, they would have said so instead of using "accounts", which are free to make.  They even had to fudge THOSE numbers because the STO forums only have about 645k members, the other numbers they used to get to one million must have included CO forums members, or they just lied...take your pick.

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Originally posted by bstiff

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Maybe I missed it, but the fact they haven't bragged about their sales and/or sub numbers tells me all I need to know about how they are doing.  I know they said they topped the UK sales chart for a week, but no numbers are given, and week ending March 6th they dropped to 18th on that same chart.  I'm wondering if they even sold 500k boxes world wide.

 

At one point they claimed they had a million forum accounts. The way they announced it though left things open to interpretation and many people assumed that meant they had a million sto subscriptions.  They should have some pretty reliable download numbers though so I don't know why they're not advertising that.

 

That was a feeble attempt to make people think they sold one million units.  If they sold one million units, they would have said so instead of using "accounts", which are free to make.  They even had to fudge THOSE numbers because the STO forums only have about 645k members, the other numbers they used to get to one million must have included CO forums members, or they just lied...take your pick.

LOL, the same way a company will announce they were in the top 100.
 

'Wonder where they were in that ranking?'
"Well it sure wasn't the top 5, 10, 25, 50 or even the top 75. Because they would of announced it that way!"

Yeah, they were fudging information to make it sound impressive.

Originally posted by Eldaer

Originally posted by Sevenwind

Originally posted by Eldaer

 Err, yes. This is where I found STO on sale.

I'm not really talking about the sale, I wouldn't play this game if I were paid. I'm talking about the fire sale.

 44% off by March 9. Hah. 36 days? Really?

 

I don't know, I think you're reaching. It's the deal of the day. I've seen several new releases on Amazon's DOD or the side deals.

 

$5 or $10 on new releases is promotional. 44% off of the normal retail price 5 weeks into the release is desperate.

Well, now it's back to 40.00 (39.99) so I think it was just a sale. I actually read some advertising that it was being offered as a one time deal.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Eldaer

Originally posted by Sevenwind

Originally posted by Eldaer

 Err, yes. This is where I found STO on sale.

I'm not really talking about the sale, I wouldn't play this game if I were paid. I'm talking about the fire sale.

 44% off by March 9. Hah. 36 days? Really?

 

I don't know, I think you're reaching. It's the deal of the day. I've seen several new releases on Amazon's DOD or the side deals.

 

$5 or $10 on new releases is promotional. 44% off of the normal retail price 5 weeks into the release is desperate.

 

Well, now it's back to 40.00 (39.99) so I think it was just a sale. I actually read some advertising that it was being offered as a one time deal.

I highly doubt this was a one-time deal. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but 44% off the normal retail price 5 weeks into the release is desperate. Bio Shock 2 was released 7 days after STO and I've never seen that title for more than $5.00 off the retail price as of today. 44% off, regardless of the length of sale, is desperation. I guarantee if you put BioShock 2 or similar high-rated title as a 44% off sale today that you would have astronomical sales. This did not happen for STO. It didn't even come up on the radar at popular deal hunting sites like Slickdeals, which is the ultimate scale for popularity/sales.

Originally posted by Eldaer

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Eldaer

Originally posted by Sevenwind

Originally posted by Eldaer

 Err, yes. This is where I found STO on sale.

I'm not really talking about the sale, I wouldn't play this game if I were paid. I'm talking about the fire sale.

 44% off by March 9. Hah. 36 days? Really?

 

I don't know, I think you're reaching. It's the deal of the day. I've seen several new releases on Amazon's DOD or the side deals.

 

$5 or $10 on new releases is promotional. 44% off of the normal retail price 5 weeks into the release is desperate.

 

Well, now it's back to 40.00 (39.99) so I think it was just a sale. I actually read some advertising that it was being offered as a one time deal.

I highly doubt this was a one-time deal. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but 44% off the normal retail price 5 weeks into the release is desperate. Bio Shock 2 was released 7 days after STO and I've never seen that title for more than $5.00 off the retail price as of today. 44% off, regardless of the length of sale, is desperation. I guarantee if you put BioShock 2 or similar high-rated title as a 44% off sale today that you would have astronomical sales. Which is not the case for STO, obviously.

This links in the thread show that it was just a one day sale if it wasn't the price would still be lower, but it isn't. Amazon game deal of the day. Marketing an mmo works a tad differently.

Bioshock doesn't come with a monthly sub does it...

You have already admitted that you wouldn't play ST:O anyway, so what does a ONE DAY deal got to do with anything.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Eldaer

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Eldaer

Originally posted by Sevenwind

Originally posted by Eldaer

 Err, yes. This is where I found STO on sale.

I'm not really talking about the sale, I wouldn't play this game if I were paid. I'm talking about the fire sale.

 44% off by March 9. Hah. 36 days? Really?

 

I don't know, I think you're reaching. It's the deal of the day. I've seen several new releases on Amazon's DOD or the side deals.

 

$5 or $10 on new releases is promotional. 44% off of the normal retail price 5 weeks into the release is desperate.

 

Well, now it's back to 40.00 (39.99) so I think it was just a sale. I actually read some advertising that it was being offered as a one time deal.

I highly doubt this was a one-time deal. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but 44% off the normal retail price 5 weeks into the release is desperate. Bio Shock 2 was released 7 days after STO and I've never seen that title for more than $5.00 off the retail price as of today. 44% off, regardless of the length of sale, is desperation. I guarantee if you put BioShock 2 or similar high-rated title as a 44% off sale today that you would have astronomical sales. Which is not the case for STO, obviously.

 

This links in the thread show that it was just a one day sale if it wasn't the price would still be lower, but it isn't. Amazon game deal of the day. Marketing an mmo works a tad differently.

Bioshock doesn't come with a monthly sub does it...

You have already admitted that you wouldn't play ST:O anyway, so what does a ONE DAY deal got to do with anything.

First, you sound like a STO fanboi.

Secondly, you're reading my posts how you want to. I've clearly stated that regardless of whether it's a 1-day sale, a 1-week sale or a permanent price change, the fact that it sliced 44% off of the retail price for ANY GIVEN PERIOD OF TIME is a sign of desperation.

Your monthly sub argument is invalid. You are making the assumption that STO has a game worth paying a monthly subscription to play, which it obviously does not. Saying a game is comparable in price point because you can actually play this poorly executed debacle with no additional charge for 30 days is completely irrelevant.

Originally posted by Eldaer

First, you sound like a STO fanboi.

Secondly, you're reading my posts how you want to. I've clearly stated that regardless of whether it's a 1-day sale, a 1-week sale or a permanent price change, the fact that it sliced 44% off of the retail price for ANY GIVEN PERIOD OF TIME is a sign of desperation.

Your monthly sub argument is invalid. You are making the assumption that STO has a game worth paying a monthly subscription to play, which it obviously does not. Saying a game is comparable in price point because you can actually play this poorly executed debacle with no additional charge for 30 days is completely irrelevant.

Ah when people disagree you must be a fanboi. Boy that just gets old as the day is long.

I just want to comment to say that how do you know that STO isn't worth the monthly sub? You admitted you don't play the game and wouldn't if they paid you. So that is your opinion. Other players of the game which I'm sure you'll call fanbois think their is enough of a game to warrent a monthly sub. It's just a bad argument.

And who the heck cares other than Cryptic if it is a sign of desperation? It's a damn good deal for the consumer. Sorry but the game isn't going to die six months from now or a year from now. If anything it will find its niche market and keep plugging along.

Gamestop is selling it for 29.99 plus you get 400 cryptic points in all their stores.

Originally posted by Eldaer

First, you sound like a STO fanboi.

Secondly, you're reading my posts how you want to. I've clearly stated that regardless of whether it's a 1-day sale, a 1-week sale or a permanent price change, the fact that it sliced 44% off of the retail price for ANY GIVEN PERIOD OF TIME is a sign of desperation.

Your monthly sub argument is invalid. You are making the assumption that STO has a game worth paying a monthly subscription to play, which it obviously does not. Saying a game is comparable in price point because you can actually play this poorly executed debacle with no additional charge for 30 days is completely irrelevant.

Cryptic posted that Star Trek Online has over one hundred thousand subscribers. Sales =/= Desperation.

In fact, it was Gabe from Valve who gave a keynote speech at DICE 2009 where he talked about the benefits of price reductions to unit sales, noting:

Pfft, when it starts selling for $5 or $10, gimme a call.

Originally posted by Eldaer

This made me laugh.

 

www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Online-Pc/dp/B002673XJA/ref=br_lf_m_1000486651_1_1_ttl

 

This reeks of a company desperate to empty their physical inventory of this game and maximize their revenues before the whole thing collapses.

 

Thoughts?

What makes me laugh is sad attempts at bashing STO at every given oppertunity.